I decide this year I'm going to use some cheap arrows for gobblers due to my slim arrow recovery rate on turkeys, which currently stands at a solid Zero . So I dug out some really old Game Getter II shafts and cut them down to 18", added a 80 gr brass insert, flat plastic nocks, and some odd Blazer X2 vanes I had, found some old 100 gr Rage 2" heads for the business end. They sure are ugly nasty looking but we'll see how they fly this week. If nothing else they are Cheap!!